MTP Day by day host Chuck Todd and NBC Information correspondent Antonia Hylton continued MSNBC’s obsession with Texas’ anti-Essential Race Concept regulation on Thursday and didn’t recognize it when creator of the regulation, State Sen. Bryan Hughes, informed them to deal with the textual content of the invoice, not how it’s portrayed.

Todd started by decrying “full-on tradition battle over a easy query of how we educate the historical past of race in America” the place states like Texas try to “whitewash a few of America’s most vital and most painful elements of its historical past” by “banning one thing that has not been taking place.” He then launched a video of Hylton “investigating the ramifications felt in a single Texas district.”

For the primary a part of the video, Hylton pestered Hughes with questions like “While you take a look at what’s taking place across the state proper now, you do not suppose this has gone off the rails?”

Hughes replied by urging individuals to simply learn the invoice for themselves, “I feel individuals must focus on what’s within the invoice and never what’s in different states or what they’ve heard and issues like that and if we had been to inform little white youngsters that they are inherently oppressors, that is not good. If we inform little youngsters of coloration that they’re inherently victims, neither a kind of is nice.”

Hylton wasn’t satisfied, “What in regards to the lecturers who say they’re closing their classroom libraries or Dr. Whitfield, the principal right here who’s about to lose his job?”

James Whitfield is a black principal accused of instructing CRT, one thing he has denied. Nevertheless, since Hylton by no means offered any specifics into what Whitfield truly mentioned or taught that ignited this controversy, Hughes might solely reiterate, “I’ll simply ask of us to take a look at the phrases of the invoice. The phrases of the invoice matter, not the Fb memes.”

After Hylton’s video, Todd took a business and upon returning welcomed her to debate the previous phase. Clearly not shopping for Hughes’ easy clarification, he requested:

He retains saying what’s within the invoice, and he retains saying we will stop youngsters from feeling like they’re oppressed or, or, or they’re oppressors. The place was this taking place? Like, this has been kind of — the place I hold it, was, did anyone truly educate this wherever in faculty? As a result of I have never discovered any proof of it and you’ve got been working at this a very long time. Have you ever?

Hylton declared Hughes did not have a solution for that “And I’ve not been capable of finding one verifiable piece of proof that Essential Race Concept made its approach into Texas faculties or different faculties all through the United States for that matter. It is a graduate degree idea, actually a regulation faculty course. It isn’t taught in Okay-12.”

Todd and Hylton clearly are usually not wanting arduous sufficient, as a result of it’s everywhere in the nation as proponents of CRT feely admit.

This phase was sponsored by Humana.

Here’s a transcript of the October 21 present:

CHUCK TODD: Welcome again. Throughout the nation, some faculty boards and state legislatures have descended into full-on tradition battle over a easy query of how we educate the historical past of race in America. For some mother and father, lecturers, and lawmakers, the reply is to whitewash a few of America’s most vital and most painful elements of its historical past. Texas has taken among the most stringent steps to manage how faculties educate race, a really top-down strategy, already passing two legal guidelines geared toward curbing the instructing of so-called Essential Race Concept which contends that historic patterns of racism are ingrained in U.S. Establishments. Thoughts you, they’re banning one thing that has not been taking place, simply don’t neglect. My colleague Antonia Hylton has been following these schooling wars as they evolve. First in her podcast “Southlake” and now with the newest episode of “Meet the Press Studies,” investigating the ramifications felt in a single Texas district. Right here’s a sneak preview.

ANTONIA HYLTON [VOICEOVER]: State Senator Bryan Hughes is the creator of Senate Invoice 3, the second and most stringent of the anti-CRT legal guidelines handed in Texas.

HYLTON: While you take a look at what’s taking place across the state proper now, you do not suppose this has gone off the rails?

BRYAN HUGHES: I feel individuals must focus on what’s within the invoice and never what’s in different states or what they’ve heard and issues like that and if we had been to inform little white youngsters that they are inherently oppressors, that is not good. If we inform little youngsters of coloration that they’re inherently victims, neither a kind of is nice.

HYLTON: Was that the motive behind these legal guidelines…

HUGHES: Sure

HYLTON: To ensure white youngsters do not really feel responsible?

HUGHES: So, the invoice is fairly clear. Will probably be flawed to inform white youngsters or youngsters of coloration that they’re restricted primarily based on the colour of their pores and skin. Whether or not they’re responsible of, due to individuals of their race did prior to now.

HYLTON: What in regards to the lecturers who say they’re closing their classroom libraries or Dr. Whitfield, the principal right here who’s about to lose his job?

HUGHES: I’ll simply ask of us to take a look at the phrases of the invoice. The phrases of the invoice matter, not the Fb memes.

HYLTON: However do you will have a message to them? I imply is there one thing you may make clear at a statewide degree?

HUGHES: So, what we’ve mentioned, I wish to ensure that this clear, so what we don’t educate in Texas Public Colleges is that one race is inherently superior or inferior.

HYLTON: I perceive that, however I need to know what you consider the present lives individuals are residing on account of this whole motion.

HUGHES: Effectively, I am unable to converse to the nationwide motion about CRT or what different states are doing. All I can let you know is what’s in Senate Invoice 3.

TODD: Welcome again. As we confirmed you earlier than the break, our new episode of “Meet the Press Studies” is taking a deep dive into this escalating schooling battle on this nation and the extreme struggle about how we educate race. NBC Information correspondent Antonia Hylton has been overlaying the affect on faculty districts in Texas. She joins me now and Antonia, I am unable to thanks sufficient to your reporting for this episode, for all the things on right here and I used to be capable of simply converse earlier on a podcast with the principal that you simply spotlight right here. So let’s begin with that again and forth you had with that lawmaker, ‘trigger he retains saying what’s within the invoice, and he retains saying we will stop youngsters from feeling like they’re oppressed or, or, or they’re oppressors. The place was this taking place? Like, this has been kind of — the place I hold it, was, did anyone truly educate this wherever in faculty? As a result of I have never discovered any proof of it and you’ve got been working at this a very long time. Have you ever?

HYLTON: Effectively, I requested him that query, truly, straight, Chuck. And what he informed me was we had been listening to studies, we acquired telephone calls from mother and father. However I’ve spent the whole thing of this yr in Texas, going forwards and backwards within the North Texas space, reporting on what we’re seeing occur in that group and different communities close by. And I’ve not been capable of finding one verifiable piece of proof that Essential Race Concept made its approach into Texas faculties or different faculties all through the USA for that matter. It is a graduate degree idea, actually a regulation faculty course. It isn’t taught in Okay-12. And so, what I feel is so vital in that dialog with Senator Hughes there may be that, you recognize, I am asking him to grapple with, proper, the tangible impacts {that a} regulation that he is simply authored that has been handed is now having on individuals’s lives. And he is repeating language within the invoice and repeating beliefs about what he thinks is going on within the classroom and I am making an attempt to distinction that, proper with, this is what’s truly taking place, here’s what lecturers are saying they’re experiencing, right here’s an educator about to lose his job, and it is not clear that what you are describing ever occurred, in Colleyville, the group at hand, or every other a part of Texas, Chuck.

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